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J&S Event Space Image in Buckner Terrace / Everglade Park, Dallas, TX
from$100/hr
J&S Event Space

15.2 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.8(6)
Venue capacity icon100

Event Space

J&S Event Space. Monday - Thursday(3hrs minimum): $100/hr Friday and Sunday(4 hrs minimum): $130/hr Saturday (7 am - 5 pm) 4 hrs minimum: $130/hr Saturday (6 pm - 2 am) 6 hrs minimum: $150/hr Rental includes setup/breakdown time, clear chiavari chairs, black table linens, Bluetooth speakers, a microphone...
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A landscaped outdoor area is set up for an event with round tables covered in white linens and string lights overhead.
from$300/hr
Vassé Rendezvous

18.6 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(1)
Venue capacity icon499

Outdoor Space

Vassé Rendezvous. Welcome to Vassé Rendezvous Discover Fort Worth’s 10-are private destination oasis, Vassé Rendezvous. A serene manicured landscape with towering oak trees, lake views offers a rare opportunity to host sophisticated outdoor events in a setting that blends exclusivity, versatility, and natural elegance. Not every event...
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Blush Event Garden  Image in Highland Meadows, Dallas, TX
from$100/hr
Blush Event Garden

19.9 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(7)
Venue capacity icon80

Event Space

Blush Event Garden . You deserve an unforgettable event that will wow your guests and celebrate the day's most important person- YOU! Whether it's a birthday, engagement, wedding, baby shower, girls' brunch, bachelorette, or simply a celebration for your closest A1 day 1s, we have the spot for you...
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Le Palais Events Image in Coppell, Coppell, TX
from$125/hr
Le Palais Events

21.3 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.8(6)
Venue capacity icon60

Event Space

Le Palais Events. Host your next event at Le Palais Events, a charming and intimate venue nestled in the heart of Coppell, TX. Its alluring charm and versatile layout make the perfect canvas for crafting memorable experiences. Event Activities: - Bridal Showers - Baby Showers - Micro Weddings...
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A modern banquet hall set with round tables covered in white tablecloths, featuring floral centerpieces and decorative place settings.
from$250/hr
WED Spaces

25.7 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(3)
Venue capacity icon120

Event Venue

WED Spaces. The space is a luxurious yet quaint event space near Downtown Fort Worth and the Magnolia District. Our building was built in 1945 and offers tons of character and charm along with our new modern touches! This space boasts exposed brick, large crystal chandeliers, all...
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Collective Coffee Image in McKinney, McKinney, TX
from$250/hr
Collective Coffee

41 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(7)
Venue capacity icon80

Coffee Shop

Collective Coffee. We are a 4,000 sqft space located in Historic Downtown McKinney surrounded by a mix of restaurants, shopping, and parks all within walking distance. We are a coffee shop by day with a large open concept and seating for 85 people. From a cozy seating...
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A brightly lit dance studio with colorful lights reflecting off a polished floor and minimal furnishings.
from$125/hr
Beautiful Spacious Studio 30 min from Downtown Dallas

Duncanville, TX

5.0(2)
Venue capacity icon120

Event Studio

A luxurious 2200 sq feet creative canvas for all artists to express their artistry to the community. Space can hold 120 people. Open space that you can decorate or leave as is. Spacious area for food and drinks. This venue is great for paint and...
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A long black table surrounded by gold chairs is set in a room with a white throne-style chair in the corner and a pink table at the far end.
from$125/hr
Multi-Purpose Event & Training Space

Duncanville, TX

5.0(1)
Venue capacity icon50

Multipurpose Space

Our multi-purpose space is perfect for business meetings, small weddings, baby showers, small churches, training classes and so much more! Guest has a access to an open area complete with kitchenette. Free parking included...
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The exterior of a historic building labeled "Eagle Ford District 49" with an arched entrance and decorative architectural features.
from$450/hr
101 Year-old Historic Landmark Event Venue in Dallas

7.4 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(1)
Venue capacity icon130

Event Venue

Are you looking for a unique and intimate venue with over a century of history in the heart of Dallas? Welcome to our newly restored, 101-year-old historic landmark venue! Originally built as a school in 1923 and beautifully renovated in 2024, this Dallas gem offers...
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An open office space with modern furniture, colorful wall murals, and a mix of seating arrangements.
from$225/hr
Unique Pop-Up location in Oak Cliff

7.5 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(11)
Venue capacity icon150

Clubhouse

FLOCC. Unveiling a grand stage in the heart of Oak Cliff, Dallas, TX. Our expansive venue, with over 2500 square feet of communal space, presents an excellent locale for a range of thrilling activities. A beautifully restored, high-ceilinged facility; it’s perfectly suited to elevate any gathering...
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Luxury Event Space with Home-Like Aesthetic Image in Cedar Crest, Dallas, TX
from$150/hr
Luxury Event Space with Home-Like Aesthetic

7.6 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.8(13)
Venue capacity icon110

Conference Room

Perfect space for all of your event needs. The venue has an open-concept, industrial feel with a touch of residential glam aesthetic! The best uses for our space are: - Dinner/Brunch Parties - Happy Hours - Pop-ups - Mixers - Workshops - Networking Events -...
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A bride stands with a bouquet in a garden ceremony while a groom faces her, surrounded by guests seated on white chairs.
from$500/hr
The Hidden Cliff - A Gathering Space

9 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(6)
Venue capacity icon40

Garden

We have owned this wonderful property for over 12 years and transformed it to a quiet and private hidden sanctuary. The Hidden Cliff is located a mile west Downtown Dallas in the Bishop Arts District. I have a great passion for interior and exterior design...
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A spacious, minimally furnished room featuring a brown sofa, a blue chair, and large windows allowing ample natural light.
from$200/hr
MOST UNIQUE EVENT SPACE in DFW , a beautiful blank space for you to create your dream party!

10.4 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(46)
Venue capacity icon150

Studio

Voted Best event space in Dallas. 3,000 sqft plus 1,500sqft patio in The Cedars neighborhood just south of Downtown With 4 unique party areas included. First is the large West Space with a roll up garage door. North Space (entry) with 2 oversized 1970s style...
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An art gallery with framed photographs on the left wall and a kitchen area on the right.
from$150/hr
Modern Kitchen Space

10.8 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.7(37)
Venue capacity icon50

Commercial Kitchen

Soar Creative LLC. This 1300+ sq ft kitchen space is a great choice for a variety of activities such as rehearsals, dancing, artistic workshops, baby showers, brunches, and more. The kitchen features wood cabinetry, granite countertops, stainless steel appliances, and modern concrete floors. It is a spacious and...
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A dimly lit distillery interior featuring a long bar with modern stools and tables under illuminated signs.
from$300/hr
New Artisan Distillery and Tasting Lounge

11.1 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(21)
Venue capacity icon300

Distillery

Welcome to the enchanting oasis of the New Artisan Distillery, hidden within the vibrant heart of Dallas, TX. Our family-owned boutique edifice, oozing with charm, is renowned for hosting eclectic events in our bespoke tasting lounge and versatile distillery warehouse, where gatherings are made memorably...
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Modern Event Space & Cafe / Flooded with natural light and outdoor space Image in Dallas Downtown Historic District, Dallas, TX
from$350/hr
Modern Event Space & Cafe / Flooded with natural light and outdoor space

11.1 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(4)
Venue capacity icon200

Restaurant

Host your next party, event, bridal shower, company meeting, or holiday gathering at CiboDivino Centro—a premier venue in downtown Dallas that blends modern design with exceptional culinary experiences. Our space is divided into three distinct areas, offering flexibility for any gathering. Main Café Area: A...
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A spacious event venue with high ceilings, wooden beams, and modern decor, featuring several tables with floral arrangements and decorative lighting.
from$195/hr
Historic, Creative and Chic Event Space

11.5 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.9(30)
Venue capacity icon80

Event Space

2700 Swiss Event Space. Housed in a historic gem in the vibrant city of Dallas, TX, our event venue offers a delightful merger of modern features and rustic charm. Nestled in the artistic district on historic Swiss Avenue, the location is perfect; central yet serene. With Deep Ellum's lively...
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A spacious event venue features round tables set with green tablecloths, surrounded by guests mingling among decorative plants and a backdrop that reads "ROCKING THE V".
from$175/hr
Large White Space With Selfie Rooms To Keep Your Guest Entertained

12.4 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.4(7)
Venue capacity icon250

Event Space

Large white space that fits 250 standing or 150 seated with dance floor. Perfect place for small weddings and receptions but also adjustable for nightlife. We have couches, tables chairs and pretty much anything you need to make your event great. We have large tv's...
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MUST SEE WIDE OPEN CREATIVE EVENT SPACE (LOVEFIELD AIRPORT) Image in Dallas, Dallas, TX
from$200/hr
MUST SEE WIDE OPEN CREATIVE EVENT SPACE (LOVEFIELD AIRPORT)

12.4 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.9(26)
Venue capacity icon150

Industrial Loft

...can opt to use these for your event or have them removed. Please message me with your special request. Event Capabilities: • Wedding Receptions • Corporate Events • Weddings • Fashion Shows • Birthday Parties • Gender Reveals • Brand Launches Capacity: • Total Capacity: Up to 150 guests • Seating Capacity: 85 guests...
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Downtown Arlington Event Space with Outdoor Patio Image in Central Arlington, Arlington, TX
from$170/hr
Downtown Arlington Event Space with Outdoor Patio

12.5 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.9(76)
Venue capacity icon150

Co-working Space Lounge

Welcome to our vibrant coworking hub nestled in the vivacious heart of Downtown Arlington, the perfect setting for after-hour events and weekend gatherings. Our contemporary space, characterized by its bright, cheerful, and professional design, is not only visually pleasing but also conveniently located near restaurants...
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Downtown, original mid-century modern architecture with double height ceilings.  This Event Listing is for the main floor Great Hall and kitchen space.  A third floor treetop room, and roof deck is available on the Meeting Listing Image in Central Arlington, Arlington, TX
from$280/hr
Downtown, original mid-century modern architecture with double height ceilings. This Event Listing is for the main floor Great Hall and kitchen space. A third floor treetop room, and roof deck is available on the Meeting Listing

12.8 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(5)
Venue capacity icon300

Event Space

This Event Listing provides a wide open, double height main floor with a dramatic entry stair - perfect for life events of all types: weddings, quinceaños, business receptions, memorial services, fundraisers, birthdays, conferences, etc. A catering kitchen is included in this listing. The Meeting Listing...
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A dining area with a long wooden table set for a meal, adjacent to a large metal fermentation tank and wooden walls.
from$245/hr
Urban Winery and Event Wine Bar in East Dallas

14.2 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(1)
Venue capacity icon150

Winery

A great place to host: Intimate Rehearsal Dinner Birthday Party Engagement Shower or Reception Graduation Dinners Baby Showers Corporate Holiday Events Networking Events & More Additional Wine & Food Guarantee Applied Based on Party Size & Type of Event Rental Rates For Specific Days: (4...
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A wooden pavilion with a metal roof sits in a green space surrounded by trees, with several people engaging in activities nearby.
from$150/hr
Spectacular Flower Farm with Party Barn and Pavilion

16.3 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(21)
Venue capacity icon400

Farm

Beautiful, sustainable, 100-acre farm just 25 minutes south of downtown Dallas - great for events, corporate retreats, team building, celebrations or anything requiring lots of space! Outdoor facilities include fields of flowers and pastures with cows, chickens, goats, etc., a rustic old barn, vintage farming...
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Bridgerton inspired ballroom minutes from downtown Dallas Image in Dallas, Dallas, TX
from$150/hr
Bridgerton inspired ballroom minutes from downtown Dallas

16.7 miles from Duncanville, TX

Venue capacity icon120

Event Space

Regency-style ballroom with photo-op areas. Many unique pieces throughout the space for your Instagrammable moments! Baby showers, bridal showers, birthdays, anniversaries, weddings, etc. Exposed ceilings make this space perfect for mechanical bull setups or bounce houses! Tables and chairs are provided for up to 60...
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A modern kitchen and dining area featuring a circular table with upholstered chairs, a sleek bar with high stools, and multiple pendant lights hanging from the ceiling.
from$175/hr
Elevated Lounge & Deck in Addison

19.5 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.0(47)
Venue capacity icon55

Lounge

Our beautiful lounge and deck are perfect for any social gathering, celebration or meeting (retreat). Flexible seating allows for casual mingling and dining. Enjoy soaking up some rays or stargazing by the fireplace on the roof deck! Space Features: - Casual seating arrangements: couches, club...
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A spacious event room arranged with chairs covered in white cloth and pink sashes, set up in two rows facing a central area decorated with balloons and a table.
from$100/hr
Budget Friendly Event Space Central to DFW

19.5 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.9(7)
Venue capacity icon100

Event Space

The Dream Studio. OCCUPANCY -Capacity is 100 persons -5-hour minimum = 1 hour set up, 3-hour event, 1 hour clean up time (Suggested breakdown) -No complimentary time is given. Book your reservation according to hours of occupancy FURNITURE INCLUDED - 112 Black Folding Chairs, Linens at Cost -...
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A modern lounge area features large windows with a view, comfortable seating, and decorative rugs.
from$215/hr
Incredible Sky Lounge w/ Dallas Views

19.7 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.5(106)
Venue capacity icon50

Sky Lounge

Our beautiful sky lounge is perfect for any social gathering, celebration or meeting (retreat). Flexible seating allows for casual mingling and dining. Enjoy views of the Dallas/Fort Worth area! Space Features: - WiFi - Casual seating arrangements: couches, club chairs, tables - Kitchen: refrigerator, oven...
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A modern and spacious communal lounge area furnished with a leather sofa, wooden coffee table, and various seating arrangements, alongside large windows that let in natural light.
from$175/hr
Furnished Event Space

19.9 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.8(65)
Venue capacity icon75

Co-working Space Lounge

Furnished event space across from the Galleria for 75 guests. Cafe, island, and setup area available for catering foods. Details: - Outside food allowed* - Free Parking *. Ideal space for: - Team Off-sites - Speaker Panels - Networking - Corporate events. About Us: Our...
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Premier, Urban-Style Event Venue Image in Hurst, Hurst, TX
from$165/hr
Premier, Urban-Style Event Venue

20.4 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(3)
Venue capacity icon90

Event Venue

Y-Squared Event Venue. Tucked comfortably in the heart of Hurst, TX, resides our premier venue, boasting an elegant and adaptable space certain to infuse any event with a touch of urban sophistication. Crafted with luxurious detail, it is far more than just a room-it’s an experience waiting to...
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A spacious, empty room with polished concrete floors and large windows allowing natural light to fill the space.
from$140/hr
Modern and Industrial Small Event Studio Space in Addison Circle

21.6 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.9(104)
Venue capacity icon50

Flex Space

PLEASE READ FULL DESCRIPTION AND RULES PRIOR TO REQUESTING, REQUESTING CONFIRMS YOUR AGREEMENT TO THE BELOW EXPECTATIONS :) Each reservation is $135/hr with a $100 event fee. The space is conveniently located in Addison Circle. It is 1300+ square feet with the ability to be...
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A single-story stone house is set on a gravel driveway surrounded by sparse trees and open land.
from$200/hr
Beautiful Venue Surrounded By 22 Acres Of Land

23.4 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(1)
Venue capacity icon95

Event Venue

Bliss Studio Room. We are surrounded by 22 acres of land, hidden in small town of Garland. Our place includes an outdoor patio that can be used for an intimate gathering. We include custom built farmhouse tables that can fit up to 10 people each. Our venue comes...
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Fabulous Space with Interior Design as a Backdrop Image in Bricktown, Fort Worth, TX
from$150/hr
Fabulous Space with Interior Design as a Backdrop

25.2 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.9(82)
Venue capacity icon60

Studio

IMSpaces. ...Baby shower , Bridal shower , birthday party , family gathering , graduation party , meeting , wedding reception , family reunion . Our space is number one space for the intimate celebrations in Fort Worth. More than just a blank space for production and photoshoots. Our vision is to make it...
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A modern workspace featuring a round table with white chairs, colorful accent walls, plants, and various seating areas.
from$275/hr
Huge Creative Warehouse in Fort Worth | 2800SF Industrial Natural Light Space

26.2 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(19)
Venue capacity icon125

Studio

Arcpoint Studios. Located in the heart of Fort Worth just minutes outside of Downtown, our creative space is the perfect venue for your one-of-a-kind event. With over 4,000 square feet of available interior space, BLANC offers a truly creative atmosphere that is the ideal venue for art...
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Refined, Spacious Club Room in Plano Image in , Plano, TX
from$150/hr
Refined, Spacious Club Room in Plano

29.2 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.2(66)
Venue capacity icon55

Club Room

Our beautiful club room is perfect for any social gathering, celebration or meeting (retreat). A ping-pong table will surely entertain the crowd! Space Features: - WiFi - Casual seating arrangements: couches, club chairs, tables - Wet bar: mini-fridge, microwave, sink, large island, barstools - 3...
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West Fort Worth's Small Event Venue Image in Burton Hills Trinity Trails, Fort Worth, TX
from$150/hr
West Fort Worth's Small Event Venue

29.5 miles from Duncanville, TX

5.0(5)
Venue capacity icon64

Event Venue

The Copper Wall. Discover a versatile space that sets the perfect stage for an array of events in the heart of Fort Worth, Texas. Our 1150 square foot rectangular venue oozes industrial charm with a signature copper wall, wooden ceiling and steel trusses all under a glow of...
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Modern Coffee Studio with Bar and Patio Space Image in George Mixon, Frisco, TX
from$175/hr
Modern Coffee Studio with Bar and Patio Space

31.5 miles from Duncanville, TX

4.8(42)
Venue capacity icon77

Coffee Shop

Karmic Grounds. Welcome to our artisan coffee and tea studio located in the cozy surroundings of Frisco, Texas. With its modern lounge style decor and charming ambiance, this is an exceptional destination to create unforgettable memories. It combines the allure of a coffee shop with the luxuriousness...
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Reviews for elopement party venues

Heather A.
Spectacular Flower Farm with Party Barn and Pavilion
This place was a beautiful backdrop for our event! It was the absolute best venue for a wedding reception. Julia was more than accommodating! She was laid back and easy going, always available to answer questions. We could not have asked for anything better! No traffic coming from Dallas, easy...
Brandy A.
Casa Vicente - North Central Austin-Fabulous Property w/ View, Pool and Incredible Outdoor Living Space
Suzanne Suzanne Suzanne what can I say about this lady is she is a total super host.. I had my wedding reception there July 18th and it was the most beautiful and memorable moment ever and Suzanne made it so special. She put up decorations out of her own...
Mark A.
MUST SEE WIDE OPEN CREATIVE EVENT SPACE (LOVEFIELD AIRPORT)
were impressed by the modern design, clean space, and overall ambiance. The venue is perfect for any event—whether it’s a birthday party, wedding reception, or corporate gathering...
Elena C.
Events at the Lake
This was a FANTASTIC venue! We used it as our wedding reception after we eloped. Karin was SO accommodating and helpful. This was the perfect venue for a small gathering. Will be rebooking for other events...
Jazmin D.
Beautifully Designed Mid Century Ranch Style Home
We hosted a small reception here for our Elopement and couldn’t have been happier! Everyone was so impressed with the decor and loved the space. It had enough room for catering and bartending. Extra seating was available and it was easy for my guests to find. Lynda was...
Isa G.
Events at the Lake
We had a small wedding reception there and it was perfect, Karin and her co host were amazing couldn’t ask for a better space or host...
Emely G.
Luxury Lake House w/ Swimming Pool & Multiple Spas
We had our wedding reception at the Noble Lake House, the space was everything and more!!! Clean, spacious, comfortable beds, fully stocked with all essentials, really was amazing all around. Also have to say how incredible Matthew and Kimberlee were as hosts, they went above and beyond to make this...
Naikai G.
Dallas Dreamhaus - A European Rococo Palace
Rachel and the property manager were stellar! I had a small elopement there and everyone said how beautiful it was. Even when Rachel and I agreed to something the manager tried to get it exactly like how we wanted and was very versatile and sweet which definitely helped the...
Tiana J.
Unique Pop-Up location in Oak Cliff
Huge THANKS to Kelly for allowing my husband and I to host our elopement party at her building. Originally planned at our home in our backyard , the iffy weather pushed my husband and I to find an alternative in a week! Kelly's responsiveness and flexibility made all the...
Paula M.
1920s Contemporary Venue & Art Gallery
cute and the pictures don’t even begin to do it justice. Colette is very responsive and organized. I booked this space for my wedding reception and all of my friends and family kept commenting on how much they loved the space. Would ABSOLUTELY book again. AWESOME JOB Colette...
Brenda M.
Urban multi-purpose industrial space centrally located in Dallas' design district.
10/10! I hosted a pre-elopement lunch reception and it was the perfect size to make all guests feel comfortable and welcomed. The space was clean, had great lighting, and was aesthetically pleasing! The hosts were super helpful and friendly. Thanks again...
Sierra M.
Large Downtown Cozy Industrial Coffee Shop
recommend this place to anyone I know, and anyone I can. If you’re looking for a spot, please come here. I held my wedding reception here and because of this place and the people it ended up being an absolute perfect night...
Amy N.
Luxury Event Space with Home-Like Aesthetic
Lo’ and Rosie were awesome hosts and very accommodating. I had my small intimate wedding reception at the venue and it checked all my boxes. There were tables (solid wood table and folding tables) and chairs for all guests and a fridge to store food and drinks. The space was...
Jennifer P.
Light and spacious home with incredible views of downtown and Lake Austin
We had a small Covid wedding reception here and I can’t recommend this house highly enough. The house is stunning, with amazing views and tons of indoor and outdoor seating. Hillery is also so warm, accommodating and easy to work with...
Kelsey R.
West Fort Worth's Small Event Venue
Great little venue! Rachel and everyone was so great to work with! The copper wall was perfect for our wedding reception...
Cydni R.
Glam-Themed Event Space w/ Complete Setup Included
This was the best experience for my wedding reception! I highly recommend this venue
Katherine S.
Beautifully Designed Mid Century Ranch Style Home
My wife and I had a small party to celebrate our elopement, with around 20 people. There was plenty of room for both group activities, and cozy nooks for more intimate conversations. The space & Lynda were both wonderful! Lynda was very communicative. Before our event, there was an issue...
Elijah S.
MOST UNIQUE EVENT SPACE in DFW , a beautiful blank space for you to create your dream party!
My wife and I just had our wedding reception at the space. Space was amazing. Couldn't have asked for a better space. The sunsets are amazing, looking through the glass blocks and through the garage door. We hosted more than 90 people, and it felt very nice and spacious...
Eric W.
Pool with a View! Modern light-filled home with 2 decks
This space was gorgeous and served very well for a surprise wedding reception for an intimate small group. Katy helped with setup and was flexible with my group to extend the booking an extra hour as the weekend traffic was very busy with different events going on. My wife and...
Guadalupe Z.
Fully Renovated House on Lake Travis
Amazing view!! Amazing service! Would definitely book again. We had a small wedding reception there and it was perfect. The home owners even left us a newly wed care package !! We are super grateful...